{"id":680,"date":"2006-01-09T20:22:00","date_gmt":"2006-01-10T01:22:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/?p=680"},"modified":"2006-01-09T20:22:00","modified_gmt":"2006-01-10T01:22:00","slug":"debate-night","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/?p=680","title":{"rendered":"Debate Night"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Right off the bat, I&#8217;ll say that Steve Paiken was the winner of this debate. He asked hard and pointed questions, resulting in an entertaining debate. As for the debators themselves&#8230;meh.<\/p>\n<p>Martin showed passion again but rambled off script a few times. The notwithstanding clause thing was just&#8230;odd. It&#8217;s obviously an attempt to change the channel and, in that respect, it likely will. The only question is what&#8217;s on the other channel. I have a hard time believing this is the sort of idea that will rally Canadians behind Martin. Also, the &#8220;Quebec is a nation&#8221; stuff really annoyed me.<\/p>\n<p>Harper didn&#8217;t wow anyone and didn&#8217;t steal the show, but he didn&#8217;t have to. He was dull and uninspiring but, like he said in his closing, he&#8217;s never been good at &#8220;spin or passion&#8221;. He got backed up on the defensive a few times but Martin was the one needing the knock-out tonight and he certainly didn&#8217;t get it.<\/p>\n<p>As for Layton, I really liked him in the first English debate, but he just didn&#8217;t do it for me tonight. Any time he&#8217;s on stage with Martin and Harper, it always helps him. But tonight he looked overlooked and marginalized.<\/p>\n<p>Duceppe was just bad tonight. He was almost incomprehensible at times and, while he got a few good one liners as usual, he was back on the defensive. Martin hit him hard and Paiken&#8217;s questions really showed the logical gaps in the separatist arguments.<\/p>\n<p>For a blow by blow recap, read on:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pre-Game<\/strong><br \/>5:37 pm: We get a Tory ad on the pre-game show&#8230;followed by the &#8220;hands in my pockets&#8221; commercial. Two ads for the price of one.<\/p>\n<p>5:55 pm: Mike Duffy is reporting that the Ekos poll had it 43-29&#8230;oh&#8230;my&#8230;god&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Opening Statements<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>6:02 pm: Paul comes out on the tax cut issue.<\/p>\n<p>6:04 pm: Paul&#8217;s got the red tie, Stephen&#8217;s got the blue tie.<\/p>\n<p>6:06 pm: The first question is on the RCMP leak. It could be a long night&#8230;<br \/>Jack comes close to mentioning &#8220;Ed Broadbent&#8221; but doesn&#8217;t. You just knew he wanted to.<\/p>\n<p>6:12 pm: Now we get a CSL question&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>6:15 pm: The moderator asks a pretty hard hitting question to Harper about the Reform party. I&#8217;ve got to say, I like these questions a lot more than the &#8220;what can you do to help my dog?&#8221; questions we saw last time.<\/p>\n<p>6:20 pm: Paul wants to get rid of the notwithstanding clause? Holy bombshell batman! I guess this is the hail mary attempt of the campaign. According to section 38(1) of the constitution you need 7 provinces and 50% of the population for a constitutional amendment. Good luck with that! I&#8217;m sure Jean Charest will be on board!<br \/><strong><em>UPDATE: <\/em><\/strong>It turns out Paul is only proposing a bill on this in the House, limited to federal jurisdiction. In that respect, I don&#8217;t have a huge problem with it, but it still comes across looking like a hail mary.<\/p>\n<p>6:28 pm: Paul says that electoral reform is &#8220;very important&#8221;. Uh-oh. Not &#8220;very <em>very <\/em>important&#8221; Paul? It&#8217;s obviously quite low on his priority list, despite the eight Ministers in charge of it.<\/p>\n<p>6:31 pm: Duceppe has gone from saying &#8220;DEMON-cratic&#8221; to &#8220;DE-MO-cratic&#8221;. Man, I love listening to this guy talk.<\/p>\n<p>6:41 pm: I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s a fly buzzing around Paul&#8217;s head, but he sure is flapping his hands around a lot.<\/p>\n<p>6:43 pm: 43 minutes in and still no &#8220;Ed Broadbent&#8221; references by Jack. I&#8217;m also disappointed that no one has said &#8220;you had an Option&#8221; with respect to the Options Canada book.<\/p>\n<p>6:45 pm: We get the question on swingers. YES!!! This is a great chance for Harper to pick up some of the swing vote. (ba-da-bing ba-da-boom)<\/p>\n<p>6:48 pm: Gilles talks about &#8220;evolution&#8221;. Way to lose the Western Canadian bible vote Gilles.<\/p>\n<p>6:52 pm: Gilles now brings up the topic on everyone&#8217;s mind tonight: the anti-scab law. Canadians are riveted.<\/p>\n<p>6:54 pm: Jack mentions &#8220;results for people&#8221;. BINGO!<\/p>\n<p>7:03 pm: Martin confirms that aid to farmers is &#8220;very very important&#8221;.<br \/>Jack tells a heart warming story: &#8220;I met with a 28 year old farmer and he showed me his balance sheet. I didn&#8217;t understand it because I&#8217;m NDP&#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>7:11 pm: Jack Layton hates it when people play political games. Obviously Jack hasn&#8217;t had time to try out the new <a href=\"http:\/\/www.80soft.com\/pmforever\/info\/\">Prime Minister Forever<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>7:13 pm: OMG! Harper is the first one to name drop Ed Broadbent. Jack&#8217;s really going to have to lay it on during his next speech to make sure people know Ed&#8217;s with him. My prediction: &#8220;<em>Ed Broadbent, Ed Broadbent, Ed Broadbent, Matt Damon<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>7:20 pm: I keep expecting someone to say &#8220;I am entitled to my entitlements&#8221; when the moderator says &#8220;you are entitled to thirty seconds&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>7:24 pm: BOOM! Paiken rams Duceppe on the &#8220;not revisiting questions that have already been decided&#8221; question. I&#8217;ve got to say, I&#8217;m loving Paiken in this one, even if he looks like Screech from Saved by the Bell.<\/p>\n<p>7:30 pm: &#8220;<em>If Canada is divisible, is Quebec divisible<\/em>?&#8221; This is going to be the Press Gallery Dinner all over then &#8211; Duceppe is SO not coming back to the English debate next year.<\/p>\n<p>7:32 pm: Martin bitch slaps Duceppe around again, once again getting him the highlight of the night. A good moment for Paul. But Harper hits back on Martin for chickening out on the debate.<br \/>7:38 pm: Man, I wish JC was still around for this national unity stuff. None of this &#8220;there&#8217;s a fiscal imbalance, Quebec is a nation&#8221; crap Paul is throwing around tonight. Boy, this guy will say anything to get elected: &#8220;I&#8217;ve always referred to Calgary as a city-state&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>7:42 pm: Harper is smart not to bite on the majority question. He&#8217;s got a grin on his face as he dodges the question.<\/p>\n<p>7:47 pm: &#8220;I don&#8217;t mean to leave you out of the discussion Mr. Layton, but I&#8217;ve never heard you say you were running to be PM, only to elect more NDP MPs&#8221;. BHA! Layton responds that it&#8217;s not the size of your caucus, it&#8217;s how you use it. Layton then says &#8220;we get down and get the job done&#8221; &#8211; I think the swingers club question has Jack all riled up.<\/p>\n<p>7:52 pm: Paul says Harper&#8217;s child care plan would only give parents &#8220;a dollar a day after taxes&#8221;. Holy shit &#8211; we really do need tax relief. Paul then says it would be &#8220;criminal&#8221; to turn away from child care. Word of advice &#8211; do not use the word &#8220;criminal&#8221; Paul.<\/p>\n<p>7:56 pm: Harper&#8217;s closing statement: &#8220;my strengths are not spin or passion&#8221; before detailing what I want to do. After Paul&#8217;s tightly scripted closing statement, I think that will sound really genuine.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Right off the bat, I&#8217;ll say that Steve Paiken was the winner of this debate. He asked hard and pointed questions, resulting in an entertaining debate. As for the debators themselves&#8230;meh. Martin showed passion again but rambled off script a few times. The notwithstanding clause thing was just&#8230;odd. It&#8217;s obviously an attempt to change the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/680"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=680"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/680\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=680"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=680"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=680"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}