{"id":625,"date":"2005-12-16T23:00:00","date_gmt":"2005-12-17T04:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/?p=625"},"modified":"2005-12-16T23:00:00","modified_gmt":"2005-12-17T04:00:00","slug":"the-great-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/?p=625","title":{"rendered":"The Great Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Well, it was better than last night. At the very least, it was more entertaining than Wheel of Fortune, albeit not quite as good as Jeopardy. We saw some emotion, a few sparks, and harder questions even if the format made really debate tough.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m going to give this one to Jack &#8220;let&#8217;s not play politics, let&#8217;s send more New Democrats to Ottawa&#8221; Layton. Jack actually sounded like he was listening to the questions; he referenced them, rather than just going straight to talking points. He did get cut off on time a lot, but he seemed genuine, attacked the Liberals, and still showed a positive NDP vision.<\/p>\n<p>Harper gave well thought out answers. Yeah, he sucked up to the questioners and pandered a bit&#8230;but less than everyone else. He didn&#8217;t look scary and defended his policies, especially the GST, well. One problem for Steve was that Paul outdid him on the &#8220;proud to be Canadian&#8221; questions. I&#8217;ll be curious how the Iraq stuff plays out once the media looks through <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chapters.indigo.ca\/item.asp?Item=978155263706&#038;Catalog=Books&amp;Ntt=paul+cellucci&#038;N=35&amp;Lang=en&#038;Section=books&amp;zxac=1\">Cellucci&#8217;s book<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Duceppe was&#8230;fun. I won&#8217;t add anything else.<\/p>\n<p>Martin was&#8230;Martin. Big words, big emotion, but a little weak on substance. He certainly felt most at home in this format and used it to his advantage. His attack on Duceppe was &#8220;the clip&#8221; they&#8217;ll keep showing, which might make him the winner once all is said and done.<\/p>\n<p>First, the scores for the <a href=\"http:\/\/calgarygrit.blogspot.com\/2005\/11\/off-beat-election-pool_29.html\">off-beat election pool<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>Harper &#8220;Corruption&#8221;: 3<br \/>Martin &#8220;Clear&#8221;: 5<\/p>\n<p>And now, <strong><u>The Debate<\/u><\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p>6:01 pm: &#8220;Welcome to the debate featuring the major party leaders&#8221;. Sorry Jim Harris.<\/p>\n<p>6:09 pm: Things start off with the same sex question and Harper handles himself better than last night, although Jack comes across as the most genuine.<\/p>\n<p>6:12 pm: Duceppe says &#8220;we shouldn&#8217;t have a free vote on a question that was already resolved.&#8221; Yeah, that&#8217;d be like voting for something in 1980&#8230;then in 1995&#8230;and still pushing for another vote.<\/p>\n<p>6:14 pm: Harper asks Paul about the God squad. Paul looks grateful that this isn&#8217;t a real debate where he&#8217;d have to answer&#8230;uhh&#8230;questions.<\/p>\n<p>6:16: Paul announces the gun gestapo to enforce laws that have been on the books for decades.<\/p>\n<p>6:21 pm: Duceppe: &#8220;48 billion dollars is&#8230;48,000 times a million dollars&#8221;. Thanks Gilles. It&#8217;s also 5,241 times 9,158,558 dollars.<\/p>\n<p>6:29 pm: Duceppe compares Ottawa to &#8220;that show from the 50s, Father Knows Best&#8221;. I don&#8217;t think Duceppe is winning, but he&#8217;s definitely the most entertaining.<\/p>\n<p>6:38 pm: Jack, <em>for the 8th time<\/em>, suggests that the problems of Canada will be solved by &#8220;sending more New Democrats to Ottawa&#8221;. &#8220;We need people to work for people&#8221;. It sounds like Jack&#8217;s platform is based on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.seinfeldscripts.com\/TheStrike.htm\">Human Fund <\/a>(&#8220;money for people&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>6:47 pm: The question is on forcing politicians to keep their promises. Harper gives a very smart point. Paul says &#8220;Duh. Promises made, promises kept.&#8221; Layton goes after Martin forcefully.<br \/>Duceppe: &#8220;between promising something and keeping it, there&#8217;s an ocean. And that ocean is called Liberal&#8221;. Man, Gilles has brought his A material to the English debate.<\/p>\n<p>6:52 pm: Jack Layton complains about &#8220;a ruckus in the house&#8221;. Kids these days&#8230;<br \/>He then says there should be &#8220;money for post-secondary, even aboriginals&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>6:56 pm: Paul talks about the opposition leaders poisoning the atmosphere in Parliament. Unlike Tony &#8220;I make Parliament work&#8221; Valeri.<\/p>\n<p>6:58 pm: Jack says that voting NDP will help solve the problem of &#8220;not enough women in Parliament&#8221;. Boy, is there anything voting for your <em>(male?)<\/em> NDP candidate won&#8217;t solve?<br \/>Paul says that he (and Tony &#8220;I make Parliament work&#8221; Valeri) have always supported female candidates.<\/p>\n<p>7:01 pm: &#8220;Beer and popcorn!!!&#8221; Way to go Jack!<\/p>\n<p>7:07 pm: Jack announces that he&#8217;s &#8220;from the Steves family in 1765 in New Brunswick.&#8221; Paul makes a joke about Jack being related to everyone. Paul would <em>never never <\/em>mention a relative of his during a debate.<\/p>\n<p>7:16 pm: Wow. Suddenly everyone came alive.<br \/>Harper: &#8220;Page 165 of Paul Celucci&#8217;s book shows Martin wanted to send troops to Iraq.&#8221;<br \/>Layton: &#8220;George Bush is better at the environment than Paul Martin.&#8221;<br \/>Duceppe: &#8220;Paul Martin is hypocritical.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>7:18 pm: Who&#8217;s this Ambassador Wilkins the moderator keeps mentioning? Is he related to Ambassador Williams?<\/p>\n<p>7:21 pm: &#8220;<em>Putting money in your hands is the best way to go<\/em>.&#8221; Guess who? &#8230;.Paul?!? Paul!?!<\/p>\n<p>7:36 pm: Paul absolutely wraps himself in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ctv.ca\/servlet\/ArticleNews\/story\/CTVNews\/20040216\/doer_west_040215?s_name=&amp;no_ads=\">Clarity Act<\/a>, an act he was dead against when Chretien brought it in. This is going to play really well &#8211; it&#8217;ll definitely be &#8220;the clip&#8221;, which works well for Paul.<\/p>\n<p>7:57 pm: Jack brings his theme home &#8211; &#8220;When you vote NDP, you elect an NDP MP&#8221;. This has been Politics 101.<\/p>\n<p>8:00 pm: &#8220;I hope you&#8217;ll make your New Year&#8217;s resolution to watch the next debates.&#8221; I&#8217;m sorry, but I&#8217;d rather join a Gym or give up smoking. That&#8217;d be far less painful.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Well, it was better than last night. At the very least, it was more entertaining than Wheel of Fortune, albeit not quite as good as Jeopardy. We saw some emotion, a few sparks, and harder questions even if the format made really debate tough. I&#8217;m going to give this one to Jack &#8220;let&#8217;s not play [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/625"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=625"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/625\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=625"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=625"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=625"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}