{"id":2440,"date":"2009-10-02T23:55:00","date_gmt":"2009-10-03T03:55:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/?p=2440"},"modified":"2009-10-02T23:55:00","modified_gmt":"2009-10-03T03:55:00","slug":"poll-soup-update","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/?p=2440","title":{"rendered":"Poll Soup Update"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There are four new polls out this week, showing a surprising amount of consistency between them &#8211; so it&#8217;s probably worth updating the rolling average:<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.angusreidstrategies.com\/uploads\/pages\/pdfs\/2009.10.02_PoliticsCAN_EN.pdf\">Angus Reid<\/a><\/strong> (September 29-30, n = 1000 online)<br \/><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_0\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">CPC<\/span> 37%<br \/>Lib 27%<br \/><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_1\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">NDP<\/span> 17%<br \/><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_2\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">BQ<\/span> 11%<br \/>Green 6%<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ekospolitics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/0779-full-report-_september-30_1.pdf\"><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_3\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Ekos<\/span> <\/a>(September 23-29, n = 3216 auto dialed)<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_4\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">CPC<\/span> 36.0%<br \/>Lib 29.7%<br \/><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_5\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">NDP<\/span> 13.9%<br \/><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_6\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">BQ<\/span> 9.8%<br \/>Green 10.5%<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ipsos-na.com\/news\/pressrelease.cfm?id=4537\"><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_7\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Ipsos<\/span> Reid<\/a> <\/strong>(September 22-24, n = 1001 phone)<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_8\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">CPC<\/span> 37%<br \/>Lib 30%<br \/><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_9\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">NDP<\/span> 14%<br \/><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_10\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">BQ<\/span> 9%<br \/>Green 9%<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.legermarketing.com\/documents\/POL\/099281FR.pdf\">Leger <\/a><\/strong>(September 22-25, n = 3602 phone)<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_11\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">CPC<\/span> 36%<br \/>Lib 30%<br \/><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_12\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">NDP<\/span> 17%<br \/><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_13\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">BQ<\/span> 8%<br \/>Green 8%<\/p>\n<p><strong><u>OVERALL<\/u> <\/strong><em>(change since <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/calgarygrit.blogspot.com\/2009\/09\/poll-soup-returns.html\"><em>early September <\/em><\/a><em>in brackets)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_14\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">CPC<\/span>  36.5% <\/strong> <span style=\"color:#006600;\">(+1.8%)<br \/><\/span><strong>Lib  29.2%<\/strong>  <span style=\"color:#cc0000;\">(-2.2%)<br \/><\/span><strong><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_15\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">NDP<\/span>  15.5% <\/strong> (<span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_16\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">nc<\/span>)<br \/><strong><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_17\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">BQ<\/span>  9.5%<\/strong>  <span style=\"color:#cc0000;\">(-0.2%)<br \/><\/span><strong>Green  8.4%<\/strong>  <span style=\"color:#006600;\">(+0.3%)<br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Even though the overall vote numbers represent an <em>increase <\/em>in Liberal support from the last election, this has prompted a new round of majority speculation. <a href=\"http:\/\/www2.macleans.ca\/2009\/10\/02\/majorityville\/\">Andrew <span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_18\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Coyne<\/span><\/a> rightly points out that the Tories are positioned for gains in Ontario &#8211; something that could propel them to their <span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_19\" class=\"blsp-spelling-corrected\">elusive<\/span> majority.<\/p>\n<p>But I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re there yet.<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_20\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Coyne<\/span> references the 4-poll average Tory lead of 42% to 33% in Ontario. A quick seat projection has the Tories grabbing an extra 5 seats with that spread&#8230;and maybe another 4 or 5 if things break really nicely for them. Nice, but not enough.<\/p>\n<p>Now, if you just use Angus&#8217; 14-point Ontario gap, the Tories hit 64 seats, a 13 seat gain. That&#8217;s only a majority if they hold their seats elsewhere&#8230;definitely not a sure thing in Quebec. To get into the magical 70 seat range needed for the majority, they&#8217;d need the <span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_21\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">NDP<\/span> vote to collapse in Northern Ontario too. Because so long as the <span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_22\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">NDP<\/span> wins 15 seats across the province, there are enough Liberal safe seats in Toronto to prevent the Tories from running up the score too much.<\/p>\n<p>This is all fun speculation and who knows &#8211; maybe in 5 months we&#8217;ll be speculation about the road to a Liberal majority. The somewhat obvious messages from all this are that Ontario is important, the road to a majority is a long one, and the Liberals aren&#8217;t in great shape in Ontario these days. And yes, I&#8217;m aware that most of those observations fall under the category of &#8220;painfully obvious&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>ALSO&#8230;<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s a new Harris <span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_23\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Decima<\/span> out today that shows Canadians would <a href=\"http:\/\/www.harrisdecima.com\/sites\/default\/files\/releases\/2009\/10\/02\/hd-2009-10-02-en331.pdf\">rather not have an election until 2013<\/a>. This begs an interesting question &#8211; what percentage of Canadians would rather hold off until 2015? Or 2020? Hell, how many would say &#8220;<em>screw it, let&#8217;s forget this unpleasant election business altogether<\/em>&#8220;?<\/p>\n<p>The poll also finds support for Jack Layton&#8217;s position on supporting the government until <span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_24\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">EI<\/span> legislation passes. Which makes a certain amount of sense. Even though he&#8217;ll get pilloried for what&#8217;s an <a href=\"http:\/\/calgarygrit.blogspot.com\/2009\/10\/abstinence-only-voting.html\">obviously hypocritical<\/a> stand by the media, <span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_25\" class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">bloggers<\/span>, and anyone who follows politics closely, <a href=\"http:\/\/calgarygrit.blogspot.com\/2009\/09\/jack-layton-making-parliament-work.html\">Jack&#8217;s message<\/a> doesn&#8217;t sound all that unreasonable to a general public fed up with the <span id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_26\" class=\"blsp-spelling-corrected\">brinkmanship<\/span> and squabbling in Ottawa.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are four new polls out this week, showing a surprising amount of consistency between them &#8211; so it&#8217;s probably worth updating the rolling average: Angus Reid (September 29-30, n = 1000 online)CPC 37%Lib 27%NDP 17%BQ 11%Green 6% Ekos (September 23-29, n = 3216 auto dialed) CPC 36.0%Lib 29.7%NDP 13.9%BQ 9.8%Green 10.5% Ipsos Reid (September [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2440"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2440"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2440\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2440"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2440"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.calgarygrit.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2440"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}